Author Topic: Let's talk about gastronomy! (Read 541 times)

Sunshine · « **on:** April 05, 2019, 02:51:46 pm »

Dang, that sounds like astronomy

I think knowing about gastronomy is not less difficult than knowing about astronomy. There are lots of food out there which are still unknown us just like the those planet out there in the universe. I started my journey to have vegetarian diet a month ago, and I am still on it. How do I feel? Well, one of my favorite nonveg item was Tandoori Chicken which was for sure mouthwatering for me

But now, I lack of that craving to have it as I was before. I don't know whether I will again revert back to a non-vegetarian or will keep continue my journey, only time will tell

Anyway, the friend I was talking in one of my previous thread told me something that I would like to share. She said she felt calmer and a bit stable after continuing the vegetarian diet for a month. Then something came to my mind that in India, the food are divided into 3 categorized based on their nature or the effect it has on our body and mind namely: Tamasic, Rajasic, and Sattvic. You can have a look at it and the food they include.

non vegetarian - What are Tamasic, Rajasic and Sattvic foods? - Hinduism Stack Exchange

Hinduism Stack Exchange · hinduism.stackexchange.com

I want to know your opinion and experience about it. Do you think the foods we consume have any effect in out thought, behavior and emotion or it is just to build up and empower cells of our body. Any other info would be greatly appreciated!

Erik · « **Reply #1 on:** April 05, 2019, 03:53:33 pm »

How interesting.
In India, everything seems to have a meaning.
It’s not a secret that I do some yoga and recently I started to wonder about the meaning of hand positions.
We all do the “namaste” sign when we start/finish practise, but sometimes I come across other things (such as uniting index finger and thumb or uniting pinky and thumb of each hand while the other fingers remain open).
I was reading about it yesterday and they are called mudras, there are about 500 of them and each is supposed to represent something and generate a certain result (among them, improve concentration, help to focus, improve eyesight, heal headaches, etc, etc, etc).

Back to your question…
I am not much into a one-size-fits-all approach to anything, so I think people react differently to different foods.
According to the link, for example, nuts promote “clarity of mind and physical health”.  What if you’re allergic to them?

Some people lead healthy and balanced eating fruit, vegetables and green tea. Bless them!
Some lead an equally healthy and balanced life eating steaks and Diet Coke.

Truman Overby · « **Reply #2 on:** April 05, 2019, 04:41:02 pm »

Gastronomy. Ah, I see. At first I thought it said Gastrointestinal. Whew. What a relief.

Nikola · « **Reply #3 on:** April 05, 2019, 06:21:33 pm »

Looks like 99% of our national cuisine consists of Tamasic. I'm depressed. Oh well, nothing a nice chunk of pork wouldn't fix.

Alharacas · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2019, 07:51:38 pm »

Cheer up, Nikola. Potatoes are probably vegetables, and bread is grain, isn't it? Come to think of it, they would have to be. Otherwise, there's no explanation for why most of Western and Central Europe (plus the US) hasn't sunk into a permanent stupor.

Sunshine, it's good to hear that some people feel unpasteurized and unhomogenized milk is better for you than this white fluid you can keep in the fridge for a month. Do tell it to the EU, will you? Here, it's actually illegal now to sell unpasteurized milk, except if you're a farmer selling it directly to the consumer and have specifically told them to boil the milk before touching it.

Also, thank you for the mental gymnastics needed to get my head around the fact that unfertilized eggs are seen as unfit for human consumption, because the hen in question has done what hens generally do, i.e. lay eggs. As opposed to fertilized eggs, which in a manner of speaking actually contain a living being you'd murder by eating the egg.

Sunshine · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2019, 03:48:25 pm »

Quote from: Erik on April 05, 2019, 03:53:33 pm

How interesting.
In India, everything seems to have a meaning.
It’s not a secret that I do some yoga and recently I started to wonder about the meaning of hand positions.
We all do the “namaste” sign when we start/finish practise, but sometimes I come across other things (such as uniting index finger and thumb or uniting pinky and thumb of each hand while the other fingers remain open).
I was reading about it yesterday and they are called mudras, there are about 500 of them and each is supposed to represent something and generate a certain result (among them, improve concentration, help to focus, improve eyesight, heal headaches, etc, etc, etc).

Thanks Erik for sharing. Yes, what you got about India is quite right. You will get confused sometime looking at the vastness and details about some subjects. Yoga is something that has so much in it. I don't know much about different type of "Aasana" and "Mudra", but I know there are many of them used for different purpose and needs as you mentioned some.

Quote from: Nikola on April 05, 2019, 06:21:33 pm

Looks like 99% of our national cuisine consists of Tamasic. I'm depressed. Oh well, nothing a nice chunk of pork wouldn't fix.

Nikola, I want to know about that 1% Sattvic food.

Quote from: Alharacas on April 05, 2019, 07:51:38 pm

Here, it's actually illegal now to sell unpasteurized milk, except if you're a farmer selling it directly to the consumer and have specifically told them to boil the milk before touching it.

Susanne, so you have a law for not selling unpasteurized milk? Is it for taking the health and hygiene into consideration?

Nikola · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2019, 04:34:09 pm »

Well, Sunshine, to be honest, it's mostly butter. And the very few vegetables we use in our dishes, and pulses (peas and lentils).

Susan · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2019, 06:05:59 pm »

We have the same or similar law about unpasteurized milk here in the U.S., or at least in Kansas. It can only be sold directly at the farm and there are a lot of limitations.

SHL · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2019, 06:16:25 pm »

Quote from: Susan on April 06, 2019, 06:05:59 pm

We have the same or similar law about unpasteurized milk here in the U.S., or at least in Kansas. It can only be sold directly at the farm and there are a lot of limitations.

I think we can still but it here, in California, but I have to check because I‘d never buy it anyway as I don‘t trust its safety, never have.

At first I thought the thread was about gastroenterology, like have colonoscopies or something, you know how they recommend those after age 50 as a health screening device? (So you under 50 have something to look forward to...LOL.) I hesitated for a few years and finally broke down and went through with one at 56, because all my friends and family had had one done and they told me to stop being such a wimp. So, I did it. All was clear and the doctor said I was good to go for another 10 years, or until age 66. So, that was good. It’s just peace of mind.

Nikola · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2019, 06:37:14 pm »

So much for discussing food

Truman Overby · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2019, 07:32:26 pm »

SHL...I'm tempted to give you a Winner badge for finally making a comment in which you didn't write the G word. Well done.

SHL · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2019, 10:59:12 pm »

Quote from: Who Dini on April 06, 2019, 07:32:26 pm

SHL...I'm tempted to give you a Winner badge for finally making a comment in which you didn't write the G word. Well done.

What‘s the G word?

Truman Overby · « **Reply #12 on:** April 07, 2019, 01:02:57 am »

Quote from: SHL on April 06, 2019, 10:59:12 pm

Quote from: Who Dini on April 06, 2019, 07:32:26 pm
SHL...I'm tempted to give you a Winner badge for finally making a comment in which you didn't write the G word. Well done.

What‘s the G word?

Think, Steve. Think real hard.

NealC · « **Reply #13 on:** April 07, 2019, 01:29:16 am »

Milk sickness used to kill a lot of people, but it is a fecal borne disease and basic sanitation has come a long way.
Here in NY you can usually get away with selling unpasteurized milk from your farm, but you have to have big signs about how it is not fit for human consumption and is only to be used to feed animals etc... Some even insist on a legal release.
In the end everyone winks and nods and as long as it is kept quiet you are ok.
All of the eggs we sell are fertilized. I would rather not have roosters but they do keep the hawks away. We also have some angry geese - if they grow up with the chickens they protect them too, even from dogs!

SHL · « **Reply #14 on:** April 07, 2019, 02:01:56 am »

Quote from: Who Dini on April 07, 2019, 01:02:57 am

Quote from: SHL on April 06, 2019, 10:59:12 pm
Quote from: Who Dini on April 06, 2019, 07:32:26 pm
SHL...I'm tempted to give you a Winner badge for finally making a comment in which you didn't write the G word. Well done.

What‘s the G word?
Think, Steve. Think real hard.

Still don’t know Jerry. You‘re going to have to give me a hit, like it rhymes with something.

Oh, it‘s not my favorite language in the world is it?

SHL · « **Reply #15 on:** April 07, 2019, 02:13:44 am »

Quote from: NealC on April 07, 2019, 01:29:16 am

Milk sickness used to kill a lot of people, but it is a fecal borne disease and basic sanitation has come a long way.
Here in NY you can usually get away with selling unpasteurized milk from your farm, but you have to have big signs about how it is not fit for human consumption and is only to be used to feed animals etc... Some even insist on a legal release.
In the end everyone winks and nods and as long as it is kept quiet you are ok.
All of the eggs we sell are fertilized. I would rather not have roosters but they do keep the hawks away. We also have some angry geese - if they grow up with the chickens they protect them too, even from dogs!

Neal, I‘m gonna have to report you to Wanda and her vegan friends. You‘re guilty not only of chicken egg theft, which is bad enough, but now you‘re engaged in chicken egg abortion, since they’re fertilized eggs you’re stealing. You should be ashamed of yourself. I bet your daddy would ashamed of you! Shame, shame!

I bet you are making those geese angry.

Alharacas · « **Reply #16 on:** April 07, 2019, 07:05:49 am »

Quote from: NealC on April 07, 2019, 01:29:16 am

Milk sickness used to kill a lot of people, but it is a fecal borne disease and basic sanitation has come a long way.
Here in NY you can usually get away with selling unpasteurized milk from your farm, but you have to have big signs about how it is not fit for human consumption and is only to be used to feed animals etc... Some even insist on a legal release.
In the end everyone winks and nods and as long as it is kept quiet you are ok.
All of the eggs we sell are fertilized. I would rather not have roosters but they do keep the hawks away. We also have some angry geese - if they grow up with the chickens they protect them too, even from dogs!

Sounds like a real picturebook farm, Neal!

Wow, I'd never heard of

Milk sickness - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(tl;dr when animals have eaten white snakeroot, their milk becomes poisonous). I don't think there's ever been an equivalent to this in Europe.

Infections caused by bacteria contained in raw milk can't have been that dramatic in Germany, I think, even though they are the reason for the laws against selling raw milk.
Both of my parents were doctors, and through all the years of my childhood we used to fetch our un-pasteurized and un-homogenized milk from the nearest farmer. Neither my siblings nor I were ever warned against drinking it straight from the container.

Nikola · « **Reply #17 on:** April 07, 2019, 09:53:00 am »

We have unpasteurized-milk machines here.

We used to have more of them here but one of the former ministers said things about unpasteurized milk that had everyone panic and stop buying it. He was recalled but the damage had been done. I don't see it as overly dangerous.

Sofia · « **Reply #18 on:** April 07, 2019, 10:03:15 am »

Quote from: Nikola on April 07, 2019, 09:53:00 am

We have unpasteurized-milk machines here.

We used to have more of them here but one of the former ministers said things about unpasteurized milk that had everyone panic and stop buying it. He was recalled but the damage had been done. I don't see it as overly dangerous.

I wouldn’t trust this machine. Not because of the unpasteurized milk but I would worry about the cleanliness and the maintenance of the machine itself. If I think about how coffee automatic machines are poorly maintained in offices, bars and homes.

Nikola · « **Reply #19 on:** April 07, 2019, 10:21:57 am »

Sofia, I just read that they have similar machines in Slovakia, Hungary, Austria, Italy, and Switzerland.

Czechs may seem very relaxed about various things but we are total hygiene-regulations freaks. I'm sure those machines get checked a lot. Also, they're often placed near the farms that produce the milk. I think it's great because it enables farms to sell their milk to people directly so they can sell it at its actual price, while dairy companies that buy it normally pressurise them into selling it for unreasonably cheap prices.

Sofia · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2019, 11:14:58 am »

I never saw any of those Milchautomat machines. But you are right, they exist where I live
https://www.brunimat.ch/de/produkte/

I have an acquaintance who decided to try to live with “zero garbage” and not use any disposable containers for food anymore. She only buys fruits and vegetables at farmers markets. Goes with her own bottles and Tupperware to fetch fresh milk and yogurts. She says everything is a lot more tasty and her children drink more milk than before.

NealC · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2019, 05:41:32 pm »

@Steve
I am making the Geese angry. During the winter they expanded "their territory" to include the side door to the greenhouse. Now they attack everyone who comes up to the side door. So every morning I get on my ATV and chase them back. That worked for a while, but now they are charging me as I pass.
I'm going to have to get a big stick.

@Alharacas
I had heard about the snake root, but I really was referring to bacterial version. A hundred or more years ago the cities had a lot more horses in them, and even a clean city struggled to keep manure to a minimum. There was some kind of synergy between manure and milk sickness bacteria. Back in the day it killed a lot of people. It is hard to even find a case of it today.

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