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The formal/informal use of pronouns in Czech doesn't date very far back. Old Czech didn't have it. English, on the other hand, used to have it and you was originally the formal expression because you - plural was used long before you - singular. Its nominative form was ye, as opposed to thou (informal you - nominative). The form "you" was used as an object in a sentence.

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The formal/informal use of pronouns in Czech doesn't date very far back. Old Czech didn't have it. English, on the other hand, used to have it and you was originally the formal expression because you - plural was used long before you - singular. Its nominative form was ye, as opposed to thou (informal you - nominative). The form "you" was used as an object in a sentence.

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I‘m not familiar with the differences in thou, thee and ye, since they are archaic. Your discussion of the school discussions, exchanges between young students and teachers was interesting.

While I‘m not entirely sure if this always applies in German schools, it probably does. With very young children they probably address the teacher as Herr/Frau xyz + formal you (Sie). Teacher replies with child‘s first name and informal you (du).

I know growing up in the States, it was, for young children, unheard of to address a teacher by first name (I don‘t think we were ever even told what the teacher‘s first name was, but we found it out eventually), and we were always addressed by first name. As a young kid, we used to laugh amongst ourselves about how funny it would be to walk into the class one day and call the teacher by first name- how rude!

But, in the 1960s, we didn‘t have to worry about the Mrs./Ms. distinction, because that was before the Ms. label came around, which didn‘t occur until the women‘s movement of the 70s hit. So all women, married or not, were just Mrs.                                             
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you was originally the formal expression because you - plural was used long before you - singular

I've never made any research, but it seems to me that 2nd person plural is the most common way of addressing people in a polite formal way. At least among European languages.
Still there are languages which have different rules for creating polite formal sentences, like using 3rd person singular (Polish, Italian, Spanish) or plural (German). Has anybody tried to find out why?
As a remark I'll add that 2nd person plural has been used in Poland too, during the communist times - but only when talking to policeman or higher rank party member.

And what about the formal and informal speech in non-European languages?

Maybe it's off-topic again, so maybe it should be the separate thread?

Edited: Oh yes. Everything is here obviously:
en.wikipedia.org
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And what about the formal and informal speech in non-European languages?

Maybe it's off-topic again, so maybe it should be the separate thread?
Done. We can go T-V crazy now.
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